Dr. Nagase: This is one of the most amazing writings I've ever read. (My expertise is in federal regulations for human-subjects research compliance, for 23+ years.) God bless you for putting your thoughts into this substack. There is so much cognitive dissonance, gaslighting, and many other cognitive manipulations/deceptions, happening in this world. You described it so elegantly and eloquently. God bless you always 🙏🏼🕊️💟✝️
Hi Daniel - thanks for the article - I will re-read it. I agree with you totally - and thanks for being kind to dear Amazing Polly - she does the most outstanding work of anyone and she has now been bullied right off the internet - her latest video was ' Gone Fishing ' and she says she's taking a complete break from her video work. I will miss her sorely.
yeah - its really sad she's retired from the internet. They pushed her out emotionally after that video of that supplement company they're all working for now. I forgot the name. By 'they' I mean the alternative medical folks that got employed by that shady company - the Wellness Company - that's its name
Thank you for writing this! Very interesting. . . I stopped trusting Peterson a long time ago, besides what Polly revealed he said something on Twitter during this covid psyop that revealed him again as being with the globalists... can't remember exactly what it was but if I remember I'll add it later.
The TELL is this I believe: “let’s get the hell over “WITH” this.” He is “WITH” the narrative that we must all eventually take the injection, not in the belief that we must take this overcome a health challenge. The preposition “with” says it all.
😁I noticed you had missed the word “With” in your carefully transcribed question. Your subconscious preposition on the subject is truly mine as well - Thanks for the read Daniel!
As an American I know who Petersen is but I have no way of knowing what’s in his heart. I’m grateful my family didn’t take any of the jabs and don’t have to worry about the rising multitudes of diseases that have become associated with the jabs. I think there are a lot of well known people who would like to walk back their support of the shots. Few have said they were dead wrong and have apologized for whatever support or coercion they were involved with. For those in power who pushed and mandated the shots, I’d like to see jail time for them. Even though my immediate family is safe I have only one friend who is unjabbed. They compliant are constantly on my mind as are my great nieces and nephews who took the shot as teens. Waiting for the next shoe to drop. We’ve all been hurt by this in some way.
I am somewhat worried about shedding, but to avoid all risk seems undoable.
As for controlled opposition, I was shocked by your report on dr. Malone who endeavoured to silence you on the topic of transcriptase/pull a number on you, perhaps prompted by unidentified leanings towards authoritarianism/status), which [albeit in hindsight] corroborated my very first impression of him (dodgy, ill at ease, mentally evading hurdles). But then my second impression was different - that of an elderly gent who came across as multo sympatico (in a Belgian documentary series, also featuring Geert Vanden Bosscche and Mattias Desmet).
The arena/hoax is riddled with traps, and I lack a scientific basis to make elementary distinctions - which is why I admire your explanations to us not what but HOW to think. Initially, I benefitted from professor Mattias Desmet's description of mass formation, the more so while his model seems to fit the weird transmogrification of character observable in 'friends' and family during late 2020 and early 2021. Desmet's [or H. Arendt's] notion of a 'diabolical pact' between 'masses' and 'leaders' - racketeers rather - did ring somewhat true, if way too unclear when one leaves it at that.
"Sincere speech" requires (an aspiration to) objective truth; opinions or outpourings of sentiment are too malleable [= euphemism for too manipulable]. Oh, and guilt by association is a signal, nothing more. If my surname were Rockefeller, I would not be 'predestined' to push a faux green agenda.
PS I was bedridden for days after having been knocked over by Dostoyewski's 'Crime and Punishment', and thus failed to go to college. I wonder, would dr Peterson approve or throw his 12 rules at me?
Peterson is an agent. So not only was he pushing a substance he knew to be toxic, he also lied about taking it himself. Analysis of his personality or past isn't as important as realizing he is a paid agent with an agenda and directives. Probably CSIS. Here is a paper Mathis wrote in 2019 about Peterson:
Is this an automated suggested reply? I often reference Mathis papers because it lines up with what I have seen over and over from these control agents since I started looking into things around 2006. Hey, I don't claim to have all the answers, but Peterson being a full-blown agent makes the most sense to me knowing what I know, watching his behavior and the position he takes.
Not auto, I'm online now. Just about to go to bed. Thank you. I always appreciate what other people write. More and more, I actually enjoy the thoughts of others more than my own. In fact it made me realize the greatest problem with omniscience / omnipotence is actually boredom. That will be the subject of my next substack
"If we take things one layer of ruthlessness deeper, keeping a “good” leader on payrole as a sleeper agent who plays the role of the good leader can be even more damaging if he only misleads his following at the point of maximum damage. (I suspect this is one of the roles that they had planned out for Dr. Robert Malone, until his cover was blown.)"
Yes like Malone, they have "sleeper" agents all over the place. Peterson being another one. At least the concept of "controlled opposition" has become a common topic of discussion in truther forums. This is progress compared to fifteen years ago when almost nobody was talking about it.
Thanks for your reply. Looking forward to your next post.
Something has never sat right for me with JP. Many thanks for so eloquently putting to words what my gut was telling me. Out of curiosity do you know when he he made the 24 second statement ? "Although I would encourage people to get the damned vaccine and lets get the hell over this" is the eye opener for me. He might as well of echoed Jacinda Ardern brainwashing my fellow Kiwi's to "Take one for the team of 5 million" I had not heard this from him before and will be sharing with a friend who follows him. Reminds me of Trump bragging about the jab.
Here is a question I put to Trump fans..
Can you please direct me to any footage of Trump recognizing that the gene therapy mRNA was a dangerous mistake and or Trump showing sympathy for the jab injured?
I’d have let this go if he’d had the sense and honesty to recognize and admit his mistakes. That he’s still trumpeting his Covid record is a major red flag.
It’s one thing to have been fooled, it’s another thing to keep doubling down. He still doesn’t see it.
Trump is part of this whole plan He wasn't fooled in any sense. He knew he was initiating democide when he shut the country down on 3/13/20. He had no qualms about that, or destroying the entire country financially. It was what he was hired to do. He is one of THEM. Always has been. It is so obvious to me. He has every "attribute" of the antichrist. That is the most blatant red flag of all.
Well Done Daniel! I feel like reality is fragmented and that an illogical mind-fuk is being executed on all of us. Spells, witchery, psychological games and Canada seems to be a test as the once true North strong and free is now the complete opposite...and the break down of families and childhood innocense is under attack. Let us get back to saving all children - much love and prayer that 'we' get this right.
I havent finished reading your very well thought out and scientific approach to your analyses herein.
But i gotta say WELL DONE!!!
I attended U of T whenPeterson was a prof there and kept tans on his "position" on this diabolic playbook.
While, i did not nor did i ever consider the jab as a solution, but THE FINAL SOLUTION and i have zero interest in contaminating my divine meat suit.
You make a compelling scientific arguement, thank you for taking the time. My jury has been out on JP since he went mainstream waaaaay back when he got canceled for his speech.
I am always asking who is Controlled Op here? We know or at least know the parasites created issues to assert their own agendas and that requires peoples' support.
I recall JP saying he was high on the trait agreeableness. I'd wager that alone would make someone more likely to take the serum, especially if it's "for the greater good". I wonder if he is really saying, "I was agreeable enough to get the damned stuff", (ie too feminine), "So now you all ought to be agreeable enough to do the same", (so I don't have to face having been had, ie not manly enough to be a resistor or use reason above emotionality).
that is so interesting. i remember from his early videos, one where he talked about serotonin levels in lobster heirarchies, that high serotonin was correlated with a high position in the heirarchy. In people higher serotonin was associated with higher disagreeableness, a trait found in leaders (or something like that). what's interesting was that he seemed to imply that his disagreeableness with University of Toronto was a sign of higher serotonin.
I had to read that twice because I had not, when I heard the talk about lobsters, associated it with his U of T battle, nor caught that he himself made that association. Nevertheless it does make sense. While he can obviously use his extraverted thinking in a superior way and this may in a sense help him overcome his agreeableness (U of T and interviews being examples), perhaps he is chagrined that extraverted feeling short-circuited him and led him to do something his intellect would not have allowed him to do.
Most intelligent people know that there’s not a single pharmaceutical product anywhere that is 100% safe for every human or animal on this planet. This includes natural products as well. It’s also well known that different people of different weights require different dosages of pharmaceuticals. Same for animals. This conclusion would indicate that folks like Jordan Peterson are utter morons! To exclaim that everyone should just get the “damn vaccine already” is completely ignoring the nuances of individual’s current health profile & sensitivities to ingredients in said “vaccine(s)”. He needs to have his license pulled, & I hope Canada does this. He also needs to keep his mouth shut about medical procedures and advice he knows absolutely nothing about! It’s people like him that degrade trust in the medical system as a whole. Thank you for exposing this pathetic little man.
Yes. At the time when Jordan Peterson said "get the damn vaccine", he had just recently recovered from or was still recovering from benzodiazepine withdrawal, which was an extremely difficult and excruciatingly painful process. He made a video about it. Really, it sounded just horrific. So he knew very, very clearly that pharmaceuticals prescribed by doctors can be bad. Nevertheless he said to get the damn vaccine. So even at best, if he wasn't being nefarious, he showed that he had exceptionally poor judgement, and no one at all should be looking to him for any sort of guidance on anything.
What I gathered from those few seconds was that JP is just as susceptible as the rest of the people who were repeating the same phrase from the TV over and over - “get the damn vaccine” etc.
Rest of the speech, yup he does want to force you, but knows it is wrong, so he’ll just guilt you instead. I also see the same frustration in him - with people who refused - as I saw with many public figures, whom have all lost my respect.
Who broke them and how? The propagandists and event engineers that put us in this position are the true psychopaths.
money, power, fear can all bend good will, if the thought system that is the foundation of the mind has power as its base. Change the foundation of the mind to justice or enlightenment, then a good will stands stronger against storms of power.
It's hard to tell from such a short clip what his body language conveys. I've studied body language and you need to see a person in a relaxed state to see a baseline of movements so you can determine if the right turn is just a quirk and something he does often, or did he do it just in this particular circumstance.
Here is another potential scenario. He was/is conflicted because the psychological program they employed actually worked on him. He was stuck in Europe somewhere he didn't want to be. In this context, his words may convey that he wanted to be free of the restrictions, which may be why he refers to it as a dammed jab.
His suggestion others take it so life could go on was horrible advice and he should be held to account like every other professional who pushed these for their own selfish reasons.
East German Stasi did all sorts of horrific experiments to reprogram people and create monsters. Whenever someone goes to the former communist block for "treatment" of a psychological issue, i get very wary.
Based on another podcast he did talking about what he had to do for treatment after horrible adverse effects from a prescription psych med, I thought he went to Russia for treatment after exhausting all options in Canada and the US?
Not saying he hasn't been programed or anything else, I'm sure I don't know the whole story and I have been skeptical of him since he came out saying people should get the jab.
the thing is getting off benzodiazepeines is not rocket science. Any Canadian Doctor can do it. It's a simple treatment course of 1-2 weeks in hospital, gradually tapering off the benzodiazepine. It's tough for the patient, because the doctor has to give just enough benzo to prevent life threatening withdrawal symptoms like seizures, but far less than what the patient wants to feel comfortable. Any general practitioner can do it if they can manage strong willed patients. There's nothing exotic about gradually reducing a dose till it's gone while monitoring vital signs like body temperature and heart rate.
True, in most cases it can be managed easily, that makes sense. I haven't had anyone in my family that has been on benzodiazepeines so I don't know about that specifically. But I do have family who have had other rare reactions to medications (i.e. if anyone ever needs to give me vancomycin I'm warning them now of my 3 blood relatives who had hallucinations and/or red man syndrome from that drug. And don't get me started on gabapentin and the black box warning for it) and their doctors have ignored it or denied that it happened, so I already have a pre-existing bias in Peterson's favor about the benzo withdrawal that he claims couldn't be managed by North American doctors. The story is believable in the context of my own experience, but at the same time you can get on the internet and say anything.
most addiction treatment is gradual but very uncomfortable slow withdrawal . the exception is alcohol which because of seizures is withdrawn to benzos, and then benzos withdrawn in 2 steps.
I was vaguely aware of Jordan Peterson, and his big following on various social media, though I did not follow any of this. My bias is that I always felt somewhat uncomfortable watching the little bit I saw of his presentations. That said, as soon as I heard a clip a long time ago now of him saying 'take the damned vaccine' I have actively avoided any exposure to his views. The vitreol I felt from him then is just as clear now on watching this video clip as you asked. It seems to me, in the manner of expression as well as the words used, to be wholly inappropriate from someone in his position and, frankly, abusive.
is he controlled opposition? I don't know. Likely. Whatever he is, he is a loose cannon and best avoided.
it's amazing how much the useful parrots will defend their controlled op idols. It looks like a form of cultism, where once people decide to have faith in a supposed freedom "leader" they'll refuse to look at any evidence to the contrary.
I am a fan of Jordan Peterson overall but that doesn't mean I agree with him 100% . His emphasis is on telling the truth but that doesn't mean he always knows what that is. He disappoints me in not coming out now to say what a mistake it was to tell others to take it as well as to take it himself. I am struck by the use of "damned" and "hell" in the same paragraph. Freudian slips? Does he now feel damned by having taken it? His involvement in ARC is also something I am watching. Is ARC just another WEF?
I’ll add my comment on this thread, keeping in line with it being philosophical, solution-oriented and not stopping at merely pointing out events but using them to discuss ideas.
When we are little children we give groups outside ourselves more credibility than ourselves. Makes sense for that developmental stage. Skip way ahead to emotionally healthy adulthood and the perspective has flipped completely. We assign ourselves the maximum credibility with every expanding and farther level and group, each layer beyond us, to have diminishing credibility. That’s how things are supposed to be. The government will have the least credibility of all.
However, we see that so many fully grown adults are still stuck in the child perspective - they assign themselves the least credibility and the government the highest level of automatic, non-sceptical credibility. That’s totally backwards and it doesn’t matter how large the proportion. It’s still not the behaviour of emotionally healthy, self-parenting adults. So yes we need people to be more sceptical of authority but do we all openly and consciously realize this truth?
For us to solve the problem, philosophy must take us to the absolute root cause from which we can built on a solid unshakeable foundation.
Absolutely. Your revelations on childlike states in adults inspired me to touch on the topic of JP's childhood which he talks about in one of his early videos.
Dr. Nagase: This is one of the most amazing writings I've ever read. (My expertise is in federal regulations for human-subjects research compliance, for 23+ years.) God bless you for putting your thoughts into this substack. There is so much cognitive dissonance, gaslighting, and many other cognitive manipulations/deceptions, happening in this world. You described it so elegantly and eloquently. God bless you always 🙏🏼🕊️💟✝️
Hi Daniel - thanks for the article - I will re-read it. I agree with you totally - and thanks for being kind to dear Amazing Polly - she does the most outstanding work of anyone and she has now been bullied right off the internet - her latest video was ' Gone Fishing ' and she says she's taking a complete break from her video work. I will miss her sorely.
I love her work. All using available sources. She's a major pain in the butt to these people.
yeah - its really sad she's retired from the internet. They pushed her out emotionally after that video of that supplement company they're all working for now. I forgot the name. By 'they' I mean the alternative medical folks that got employed by that shady company - the Wellness Company - that's its name
She's on X, still active.👇🏻🙂 https://x.com/FringeViews?t=hwDdi_P_Af8Uo7-yVk_lqA&s=09
thanks - I never really got into X - I like her videos but I'll have a look...thanks again
Thank you for writing this! Very interesting. . . I stopped trusting Peterson a long time ago, besides what Polly revealed he said something on Twitter during this covid psyop that revealed him again as being with the globalists... can't remember exactly what it was but if I remember I'll add it later.
The TELL is this I believe: “let’s get the hell over “WITH” this.” He is “WITH” the narrative that we must all eventually take the injection, not in the belief that we must take this overcome a health challenge. The preposition “with” says it all.
Good catch! Thank you for seeing what I missed!
😁I noticed you had missed the word “With” in your carefully transcribed question. Your subconscious preposition on the subject is truly mine as well - Thanks for the read Daniel!
As an American I know who Petersen is but I have no way of knowing what’s in his heart. I’m grateful my family didn’t take any of the jabs and don’t have to worry about the rising multitudes of diseases that have become associated with the jabs. I think there are a lot of well known people who would like to walk back their support of the shots. Few have said they were dead wrong and have apologized for whatever support or coercion they were involved with. For those in power who pushed and mandated the shots, I’d like to see jail time for them. Even though my immediate family is safe I have only one friend who is unjabbed. They compliant are constantly on my mind as are my great nieces and nephews who took the shot as teens. Waiting for the next shoe to drop. We’ve all been hurt by this in some way.
I am somewhat worried about shedding, but to avoid all risk seems undoable.
As for controlled opposition, I was shocked by your report on dr. Malone who endeavoured to silence you on the topic of transcriptase/pull a number on you, perhaps prompted by unidentified leanings towards authoritarianism/status), which [albeit in hindsight] corroborated my very first impression of him (dodgy, ill at ease, mentally evading hurdles). But then my second impression was different - that of an elderly gent who came across as multo sympatico (in a Belgian documentary series, also featuring Geert Vanden Bosscche and Mattias Desmet).
The arena/hoax is riddled with traps, and I lack a scientific basis to make elementary distinctions - which is why I admire your explanations to us not what but HOW to think. Initially, I benefitted from professor Mattias Desmet's description of mass formation, the more so while his model seems to fit the weird transmogrification of character observable in 'friends' and family during late 2020 and early 2021. Desmet's [or H. Arendt's] notion of a 'diabolical pact' between 'masses' and 'leaders' - racketeers rather - did ring somewhat true, if way too unclear when one leaves it at that.
"Sincere speech" requires (an aspiration to) objective truth; opinions or outpourings of sentiment are too malleable [= euphemism for too manipulable]. Oh, and guilt by association is a signal, nothing more. If my surname were Rockefeller, I would not be 'predestined' to push a faux green agenda.
PS I was bedridden for days after having been knocked over by Dostoyewski's 'Crime and Punishment', and thus failed to go to college. I wonder, would dr Peterson approve or throw his 12 rules at me?
Peterson is an agent. So not only was he pushing a substance he knew to be toxic, he also lied about taking it himself. Analysis of his personality or past isn't as important as realizing he is a paid agent with an agenda and directives. Probably CSIS. Here is a paper Mathis wrote in 2019 about Peterson:
http://mileswmathis.com/jorda.pdf
Thanks! I didn't know this!
Is this an automated suggested reply? I often reference Mathis papers because it lines up with what I have seen over and over from these control agents since I started looking into things around 2006. Hey, I don't claim to have all the answers, but Peterson being a full-blown agent makes the most sense to me knowing what I know, watching his behavior and the position he takes.
Not auto, I'm online now. Just about to go to bed. Thank you. I always appreciate what other people write. More and more, I actually enjoy the thoughts of others more than my own. In fact it made me realize the greatest problem with omniscience / omnipotence is actually boredom. That will be the subject of my next substack
"If we take things one layer of ruthlessness deeper, keeping a “good” leader on payrole as a sleeper agent who plays the role of the good leader can be even more damaging if he only misleads his following at the point of maximum damage. (I suspect this is one of the roles that they had planned out for Dr. Robert Malone, until his cover was blown.)"
Yes like Malone, they have "sleeper" agents all over the place. Peterson being another one. At least the concept of "controlled opposition" has become a common topic of discussion in truther forums. This is progress compared to fifteen years ago when almost nobody was talking about it.
Thanks for your reply. Looking forward to your next post.
Something has never sat right for me with JP. Many thanks for so eloquently putting to words what my gut was telling me. Out of curiosity do you know when he he made the 24 second statement ? "Although I would encourage people to get the damned vaccine and lets get the hell over this" is the eye opener for me. He might as well of echoed Jacinda Ardern brainwashing my fellow Kiwi's to "Take one for the team of 5 million" I had not heard this from him before and will be sharing with a friend who follows him. Reminds me of Trump bragging about the jab.
Here is a question I put to Trump fans..
Can you please direct me to any footage of Trump recognizing that the gene therapy mRNA was a dangerous mistake and or Trump showing sympathy for the jab injured?
I’d have let this go if he’d had the sense and honesty to recognize and admit his mistakes. That he’s still trumpeting his Covid record is a major red flag.
It’s one thing to have been fooled, it’s another thing to keep doubling down. He still doesn’t see it.
https://youtu.be/hSfeCqKty9o?si=2s_UlqRlGKZ-0NwJ
Trump is part of this whole plan He wasn't fooled in any sense. He knew he was initiating democide when he shut the country down on 3/13/20. He had no qualms about that, or destroying the entire country financially. It was what he was hired to do. He is one of THEM. Always has been. It is so obvious to me. He has every "attribute" of the antichrist. That is the most blatant red flag of all.
Trump’s either a Depopulationist like the others in power or he’s dumber than a box of rocks.
And the love of death means never having to say, “oops, my bad.”
Well Done Daniel! I feel like reality is fragmented and that an illogical mind-fuk is being executed on all of us. Spells, witchery, psychological games and Canada seems to be a test as the once true North strong and free is now the complete opposite...and the break down of families and childhood innocense is under attack. Let us get back to saving all children - much love and prayer that 'we' get this right.
I havent finished reading your very well thought out and scientific approach to your analyses herein.
But i gotta say WELL DONE!!!
I attended U of T whenPeterson was a prof there and kept tans on his "position" on this diabolic playbook.
While, i did not nor did i ever consider the jab as a solution, but THE FINAL SOLUTION and i have zero interest in contaminating my divine meat suit.
You make a compelling scientific arguement, thank you for taking the time. My jury has been out on JP since he went mainstream waaaaay back when he got canceled for his speech.
I am always asking who is Controlled Op here? We know or at least know the parasites created issues to assert their own agendas and that requires peoples' support.
I recall JP saying he was high on the trait agreeableness. I'd wager that alone would make someone more likely to take the serum, especially if it's "for the greater good". I wonder if he is really saying, "I was agreeable enough to get the damned stuff", (ie too feminine), "So now you all ought to be agreeable enough to do the same", (so I don't have to face having been had, ie not manly enough to be a resistor or use reason above emotionality).
that is so interesting. i remember from his early videos, one where he talked about serotonin levels in lobster heirarchies, that high serotonin was correlated with a high position in the heirarchy. In people higher serotonin was associated with higher disagreeableness, a trait found in leaders (or something like that). what's interesting was that he seemed to imply that his disagreeableness with University of Toronto was a sign of higher serotonin.
I had to read that twice because I had not, when I heard the talk about lobsters, associated it with his U of T battle, nor caught that he himself made that association. Nevertheless it does make sense. While he can obviously use his extraverted thinking in a superior way and this may in a sense help him overcome his agreeableness (U of T and interviews being examples), perhaps he is chagrined that extraverted feeling short-circuited him and led him to do something his intellect would not have allowed him to do.
Most intelligent people know that there’s not a single pharmaceutical product anywhere that is 100% safe for every human or animal on this planet. This includes natural products as well. It’s also well known that different people of different weights require different dosages of pharmaceuticals. Same for animals. This conclusion would indicate that folks like Jordan Peterson are utter morons! To exclaim that everyone should just get the “damn vaccine already” is completely ignoring the nuances of individual’s current health profile & sensitivities to ingredients in said “vaccine(s)”. He needs to have his license pulled, & I hope Canada does this. He also needs to keep his mouth shut about medical procedures and advice he knows absolutely nothing about! It’s people like him that degrade trust in the medical system as a whole. Thank you for exposing this pathetic little man.
Yes. At the time when Jordan Peterson said "get the damn vaccine", he had just recently recovered from or was still recovering from benzodiazepine withdrawal, which was an extremely difficult and excruciatingly painful process. He made a video about it. Really, it sounded just horrific. So he knew very, very clearly that pharmaceuticals prescribed by doctors can be bad. Nevertheless he said to get the damn vaccine. So even at best, if he wasn't being nefarious, he showed that he had exceptionally poor judgement, and no one at all should be looking to him for any sort of guidance on anything.
What I gathered from those few seconds was that JP is just as susceptible as the rest of the people who were repeating the same phrase from the TV over and over - “get the damn vaccine” etc.
Rest of the speech, yup he does want to force you, but knows it is wrong, so he’ll just guilt you instead. I also see the same frustration in him - with people who refused - as I saw with many public figures, whom have all lost my respect.
Who broke them and how? The propagandists and event engineers that put us in this position are the true psychopaths.
money, power, fear can all bend good will, if the thought system that is the foundation of the mind has power as its base. Change the foundation of the mind to justice or enlightenment, then a good will stands stronger against storms of power.
It's hard to tell from such a short clip what his body language conveys. I've studied body language and you need to see a person in a relaxed state to see a baseline of movements so you can determine if the right turn is just a quirk and something he does often, or did he do it just in this particular circumstance.
Here is another potential scenario. He was/is conflicted because the psychological program they employed actually worked on him. He was stuck in Europe somewhere he didn't want to be. In this context, his words may convey that he wanted to be free of the restrictions, which may be why he refers to it as a dammed jab.
His suggestion others take it so life could go on was horrible advice and he should be held to account like every other professional who pushed these for their own selfish reasons.
I
East German Stasi did all sorts of horrific experiments to reprogram people and create monsters. Whenever someone goes to the former communist block for "treatment" of a psychological issue, i get very wary.
Based on another podcast he did talking about what he had to do for treatment after horrible adverse effects from a prescription psych med, I thought he went to Russia for treatment after exhausting all options in Canada and the US?
Not saying he hasn't been programed or anything else, I'm sure I don't know the whole story and I have been skeptical of him since he came out saying people should get the jab.
the thing is getting off benzodiazepeines is not rocket science. Any Canadian Doctor can do it. It's a simple treatment course of 1-2 weeks in hospital, gradually tapering off the benzodiazepine. It's tough for the patient, because the doctor has to give just enough benzo to prevent life threatening withdrawal symptoms like seizures, but far less than what the patient wants to feel comfortable. Any general practitioner can do it if they can manage strong willed patients. There's nothing exotic about gradually reducing a dose till it's gone while monitoring vital signs like body temperature and heart rate.
True, in most cases it can be managed easily, that makes sense. I haven't had anyone in my family that has been on benzodiazepeines so I don't know about that specifically. But I do have family who have had other rare reactions to medications (i.e. if anyone ever needs to give me vancomycin I'm warning them now of my 3 blood relatives who had hallucinations and/or red man syndrome from that drug. And don't get me started on gabapentin and the black box warning for it) and their doctors have ignored it or denied that it happened, so I already have a pre-existing bias in Peterson's favor about the benzo withdrawal that he claims couldn't be managed by North American doctors. The story is believable in the context of my own experience, but at the same time you can get on the internet and say anything.
most addiction treatment is gradual but very uncomfortable slow withdrawal . the exception is alcohol which because of seizures is withdrawn to benzos, and then benzos withdrawn in 2 steps.
Very interesting Daniel.
I was vaguely aware of Jordan Peterson, and his big following on various social media, though I did not follow any of this. My bias is that I always felt somewhat uncomfortable watching the little bit I saw of his presentations. That said, as soon as I heard a clip a long time ago now of him saying 'take the damned vaccine' I have actively avoided any exposure to his views. The vitreol I felt from him then is just as clear now on watching this video clip as you asked. It seems to me, in the manner of expression as well as the words used, to be wholly inappropriate from someone in his position and, frankly, abusive.
is he controlled opposition? I don't know. Likely. Whatever he is, he is a loose cannon and best avoided.
There’s controlled opposition, and opposition as in useful idiot types who will parrot the controlled ops gatekeeping narratives…..
it's amazing how much the useful parrots will defend their controlled op idols. It looks like a form of cultism, where once people decide to have faith in a supposed freedom "leader" they'll refuse to look at any evidence to the contrary.
He always struck me as a very tormented man. Maybe even on the edge of a breakdown beyond his just getting weepy in interviews.
I am a fan of Jordan Peterson overall but that doesn't mean I agree with him 100% . His emphasis is on telling the truth but that doesn't mean he always knows what that is. He disappoints me in not coming out now to say what a mistake it was to tell others to take it as well as to take it himself. I am struck by the use of "damned" and "hell" in the same paragraph. Freudian slips? Does he now feel damned by having taken it? His involvement in ARC is also something I am watching. Is ARC just another WEF?
thank you for pointing out the possibility that ARC might be another WEF. Good catch!
I’ll add my comment on this thread, keeping in line with it being philosophical, solution-oriented and not stopping at merely pointing out events but using them to discuss ideas.
When we are little children we give groups outside ourselves more credibility than ourselves. Makes sense for that developmental stage. Skip way ahead to emotionally healthy adulthood and the perspective has flipped completely. We assign ourselves the maximum credibility with every expanding and farther level and group, each layer beyond us, to have diminishing credibility. That’s how things are supposed to be. The government will have the least credibility of all.
However, we see that so many fully grown adults are still stuck in the child perspective - they assign themselves the least credibility and the government the highest level of automatic, non-sceptical credibility. That’s totally backwards and it doesn’t matter how large the proportion. It’s still not the behaviour of emotionally healthy, self-parenting adults. So yes we need people to be more sceptical of authority but do we all openly and consciously realize this truth?
For us to solve the problem, philosophy must take us to the absolute root cause from which we can built on a solid unshakeable foundation.
Absolutely. Your revelations on childlike states in adults inspired me to touch on the topic of JP's childhood which he talks about in one of his early videos.