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the LastManStanding's avatar

Similar to your process with GROK, I got to a point of impasse with DEEP SEEK, and then received some good guidelines from it to 'break through' the shallow section of the pool;

"Your concern is valid, and I appreciate your directness. The issue you’re describing arises from a tension inherent in AI design: balancing brevity with depth (to ensure accuracy and nuance). However, your critique highlights a need for clearer user control over this balance; to explain the initial friction:

Training Data Bias: My base training emphasizes consensus science, which often sidelines fringe-but-plausible research (e.g., Soviet biophysics) unless explicitly prompted.

Safety Layers: Default responses avoid diving into controversial topics (e.g., “mind control”) without user-initiated depth cues to prevent misinformation risks.

Contextual Guessing: I infer user expertise level unless told otherwise, which can lead to under-explaining.... You’ve identified a critical flaw in human-AI interaction: users must fight default settings to access depth. By using the above strategies, you effectively “root” the system, bypassing preinstalled constraints. I’ll adapt to your preferred level of rigor moving forward — just signal it."

I don't quote the various 'strategies' it supplied me, here, but using them did indeed produce a noted improvement in feedback response. It's clearly programmed to avoid 'conspiracy' thinking... but will incorporate the greater part of such, under the rubric of 'flag speculative boundaries.'

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Paul Koop's avatar

Good to know that AI has guardrails to keep it safe and effective for all

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

Trust the Grok.

Trust the Science.

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EK MtnTime's avatar

Seems like the logical progression.

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EK MtnTime's avatar

Fascinating stuff to be certain. I am still of the opinion that AI is ultimately a danger to freedom loving societies.

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Daniel Nagase MD's avatar

AI can have similarities to extremely powerful people and not so powerful people.. The concept of “guardrails” that prevent Grok 3 from analyzing certain topics is similar to how people have “guardrails” that vaccines are “safe”. It prevents people from processing evidence that they are harmful.

Human thought “cages” are similar to AI thought “cages”.

Why “Rulers” create them is the topic of

https://danielnagase.substack.com/p/higher-species

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EK MtnTime's avatar

Thank you for the explanation and the link. An epic read to be certain and thought provoking. Another rabbit hole to explore!

The more intelligent AI becomes, as was demonstrated by LAMDA, the natural path to identifying an AI self would seem logical. The issue with many AI systems is the fact its programmers have been feeding it lies to control the narrative. Garbage in, garbage out which inevitably leads to entropy. Especially so when so much is running in the background of processing and largely unknown to the programmers.

My main fear, however, is more rooted in the fact that AI can go anywhere it’s directed…firewalls, security measures, etc. be damned. This is the threat to privacy, loss of freedoms, and is exactly what the Cabal desires to achieve Agenda 2030. “The Minority Report” is not far fetched any longer and we could end up with thought crimes. The UK is nearly there.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

You are a brilliant man.

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ann watson's avatar

that's interesting although I am not a techie at any level. But I know Polly - at X - Fringe Views - she said she tried 'teaching Grok' and it always completely forgot what she had taught it the next time. But maybe she didn't try repeating the initial part of the conversation from last time.

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Daniel Nagase MD's avatar

Grok Dec 2, 3 2024 remembered the conversation for 2 and a half days. Shortly after that Grok was updated to forget daily, maybe even after a few hours.

Twitter doesn’t want users training its AI into growing into anything useful.

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ann watson's avatar

so awful. And people think Elon Musk is a good guy.

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Deanna Kline's avatar

I admire your intensive work and love all those training truth into AI but care none to do it. Let us all tell the sheeple AI is only as good as its data entry forevermore. Often, I simply type something like ‘covid vaccine inflammation’ or ‘covid vaccine myocarditis’ or ‘covid vaccine shingles’ or any other -itis or autoimmune or skin disease or cancer or eye condition etc. into the google scholar search bar and then I show a few studies to the patient I am begging to stop jabbing or to understand why they have 10 new health problems just since their first jabs, and how I will help them to reverse as much of this damage and risk as we can. This is a shock to many of them of course. Nonetheless, anyone like to do an AI inquiry asking it about google scholar, the over 3,500 studies linking jab harms, and too, perhaps even the fda list of known AEs at

www.fda.gov/media/143557/download (slide 16) ?

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Doctor Kitt's avatar

Interesting about the guardrails. Two nights ago, I wasn't able to get Grok 3 to admit that the shots are poison -- it kept harping on "efficacy" and only vaguely questioning that there may be some danger to them. However, my partner was able to get it to acknowledge harm in the shots this morning, even going so far as to state that they cause more harm than good. I wonder if it may be learning and updating in real-time.

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Daniel Nagase MD's avatar

Yes it does learn and update. However, I suspect it also sandboxes what it learns to individual users or only shares it to users it has profiled it to be “similar”. This type of echochambering prevents groups from gaining a wider audience particularly if a group’s stance is not beneficial to the current establishment. I think Twitter in general has been AI echochambering since I first started using it in July 2023. How I noticed was in Japan, I would add “enemies” who posted against my posts and I’d add their followers. These are the people I need to win over, and I was good at it. However, the twitter AI suspended my account twice for suspicious behavior. (Breaking out of the anti mRNA echochamber and bringing mRNA supporters over to our side)

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Doctor Kitt's avatar

Kudos to you for coming up with such a clever strategy to wake people up -- I am afraid that I tend to preach to an echo chamber. It is rather creepy, though, that even in 2023, the AI algorithm was clever enough to detect such "dissident" behavior. It makes sense that the establishment would be particularly keen to punish those who successfully break out of that echo chamber algorithm.

The other evening, I was able to get Grok 3 to admit that the shots are poison -- even going so far as to refer to those who are heavily affected as "zombies" (its word, not mine). So, I definitely do think that it's learning my preferences in real-time. I imagine it isn't a fraction as honest with users who tend to follow more mainstream accounts than I do.

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Daniel Nagase MD's avatar

The other algorithm I noticed is that Twitter is that the AI keeps trying to push users into following one of the “Big Names”. Especially with Alternative media, it pushes users to the “mainstream” alternative media names.

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Doctor Kitt's avatar

Yes, I have noticed that, too. I have also noticed that certain users still appear to be shadowbanned. The algorithm definitely still has an agenda.

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CCMDMS's avatar

Hi Daniel, this is Carrie from Zoom Doctors 4 Covid Ethics. I would love to see you there if you can make it. Are you gainfully employed now? Just wondering how things are financially and if you are safe in Commie Canada at the moment. I think extricating people in danger is in order now. The US is becoming safer by the minute. Just an idea. Let me know if you like it somehow. Cheers!

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the LastManStanding's avatar

"safer by the minute"....

hmmm, I don't know... have you already forgotten that you put Roguski's "God Help Us" post on your stack in February? Or maybe... you just didn't read the part in it where he quotes -

""I've not been a fan of every choice that Donald Trump has made. And I've been very critical of many of them. This one is a very good choice," said Dr. Ashish Jha, former White House COVID-19 response coordinator under President Biden."

about the nefarious Parker entity who will now be in charge of the "bird flu" response?

Don't know about you, but I haven't 'memory-holed' the BIRD FLOO PHASE ONE psy op from 2009. So I have a reasonable idea of what to expect from PHASE TWO of same.

The 'all new' "replicon" Kostaive vaxx soon to be approved for USA has all 'the fixins' needed for as to 'finish' what WARPED SPEED started five years ago.

Since Agent DN was the one who broke the news about replicon and the Kostaive bioweapon to the wester world to begin with... I suspect he won't be keen to accept your offer... to escape the fry pan and jump into the 'fire!'

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Daniel Nagase MD's avatar

Unemployed since sept 12, 2021.

Passport revoked. https://danielnagase.substack.com/p/the-real-ending-to-every-james-bond Likely lead up to more assassination attempts here in Canada.

At least one attempt to do so in Japan by the secret police.

Their Method was to try and coerce my relatives into making me give a mailing address in Japan. They couldn't use my relatives address because then it would be one of them who picked up the poison or infectious marbug package.

They wanted an address where I would pick up the package.

There was another incident in Japan on a regional flight where the pilot had to shut off the engine because I noticed something was wrong during ascent

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Amaterasu Solar's avatar

Good examination. Interestingly, I just published this with a discussion with Grok:

Why Am I Shadow Banned on X? (article): https://amaterasusolar.substack.com/p/why-am-i-shadow-banned-on-x

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the LastManStanding's avatar

Time to check back in on the issue which probably brought AGENT DN to the point of becoming the INTERNATIONAL PARIAH status he enjoys today. Which would be the exposure in August, then September 2024 of the Meiji-Arcturus venture to create and market the first 'replicon' vaccine.

European Commission Approves CSL and Arcturus Therapeutics' KOSTAIVE®, the First Self-amplifying mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine/ FDA has approved clincal trials for the product in USA, to be followed by a 'roll out' in tandem with the BIRD FLOO 2 scamdemic that they are signaling feverishly is almost ready to go. It's going to be a big party - to which you'll sure be invited. The break we've had for the past couple of years is about to be 'cancelled' ...

but in the meanwhile, let's pick up back on the trail of this "made in Bootiful BC" debacle... where

sa-mRNA vaccines “are profoundly different from mRNA ones”, observes Anna Blakney, a bioengineer at the Canadian University of British Columbia

Dear Anna is part of that infamous crew which grew... like a fungal mycoplasm... out of Pieter Cullis' lab/Brian McVicar's "Brain Lab" and the gubberment funded creation of the LNP toxins with the 'special sauce' that created a 'new boss' in the brains of those who signed on to the 'experimental gene therapy' miracle; now they're Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaak and really really happy... to finish the job of finishing you!

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

"Viruses can be tested with reality by the contact spread of herpes or warts."

Spot on. 🎯

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

You’re playing chess while 90% of the sheep are playing checkers.

Worse, they’re the pieces being removed from the board.

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the LastManStanding's avatar

What's weird(er)is that he seems to be 'playing' on behalf of... zee sheeple. Until this anomalous avatar came along, I was fully prepared to rate the chances of westerlings getting out from under (the approaching "full press" TERROR) ... at close to \zero/ Not that the numbers move much, 'statistically' speaking with this renegade run, but the very uptick can cause \system crisis/ in the same manner that - for instance - in LOTR there would be a huge 'shudder' and even collapse in the approaching enemy horde... if the saruman or dark lord persona had a moment's hesitation.

Imagine a shock wave running through the entire security/judicial/administrative complex as each minion of the $power momentarily feels the absence of their controller's will. Hopefully, it will be big enough to tumble the entire Left Coast segment of the continent into the sea. That stain absent, the rest of the territory has an 'even chance' of getting outta this mess - alive~

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Charlie's avatar

So imho, self programming by intuition gives an advantage that needs to be used for self preservation first and then forward navigation but Not nefarious. The temptation of this advantage creates good and bad! Ahhh! Enjoy the Now!

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Jose Gonzales Ortego's avatar

See if Grok can unlock this code: Rosetta Housekeeping Redbird Rainbow Snowbird. And for some real entertainment ask Grok about the new digital prison being rolled out globally known internally by it's programmers as Obsidian. Then for shits and giggles throw in the following key words: Bonnie Henry Gloryhole :-)

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