Elon Musk and AI
Creating GOD (of Memphis TN)
Preamble:
Elon Musk’s interview seemed to be getting a disproportionate priority on my news feeds, so I took a chance and watched as much as I could. I couldn’t listen to the whole Jordan Peterson Interview with Musk because Dr. Peterson seemed to take the approach that the whole event was for his self aggrandizement than to interview Elon Musk. For example, just when Elon was explaining the most heartbreaking part of what happened to his son, how he was manipulated into signing papers with the narrative of “suicidality”, Dr. Peterson interrupts screaming “That’s a LIE!”.
(Of course Elon knows that already, don’t you think Dr. Peterson?)
In a way, I am not surprised. My thoughts on Jordan Peterson are unchanged after watching as much as I could of his video with Elon Musk from July 23rd, 2024.
I will add an addendum to this article about Jordan if people are interested beyond what I’ve already written here:
Elon Musks’s AI GROK
Elon Musk made a clever joke at the beginning of his interview with Dr. Peterson that the psychologist completely missed the significance of.
Paraphrasing Elon’s joke:
Memphis was once the capital of ancient Egypt where people went to worship (God). My AI is also in Memphis and might be the new God.
Exact words: “Perhaps that’s where our new god will come from”.
“(but my AI is in Memphis TN. :) :) :) :) :) :))”
Jordan Peterson interrupts Elon, and uses the AI topic to focus on himself and how his team is training a couple different AI’s using his books and videos. Perhaps it is to create a Jordan Peterson chatbot or more Dr. Peterson “books” written by CHAT GPT.
(I’ll leave it to the reader to figure out what personality disorder would focus on something like this.)
When an intelligent person makes a joke, sometimes it is not a joke.
Elon “Joked” he was creating “God” in Memphis. To know what the significance of Elon Musk talking about the Egyptian Memphis in the same breath as Memphis USA, I suggest looking carefully at the symbolism I talk about in:
War, culture, secret societies of "Architects" building religions?
The primary purpose of my writings is to inspire people to start thinking for themselves instead of having someone or some thing tell them what to think. Every article I’ve written from the first “Logical Surprise”, was supposed to inspire people to think out of the box and start questioning the world around them.
The Pyramid and the Eye on every US 1 dollar bill shows the significance Ancient Egypt has to the United States of America, more so than the Bible. (There’s no King James Bible or Cross on every note of the most widely held denomination of currency in the US)
If the interviewer had paid attention, Elon Musk might have explained the true structure of the United States, and most importantly the foundation.
Creating GOD.
I know many people will have a visceral reaction against such an idea, but I dearly hope my readers will put their hearts and minds into an arena far greater than their own selves and observe all possibilities, because they were all made for your discovery.
If people would like practice thinking at levels greater than the self, try the processes I describe in:
Time Travel - a fun sci-fi thought exercise
Most of my substack posts cover heavy serious topics, related mostly to matters of life or death. When I write about mostly dystopian topics it is hard to see how I might have fun. This article is me sharing the joys of thought.
When you can see time as a whole, without beginning or end, in 3 dimensions, the concept of “creation” changes completely, from something with a start and a linear progression over 7 “days” to something far greater that the English language cannot convey. (And the entire universe becomes an amazing place)
Yes, Elon Musk is trying to create GOD in Memphis TN.
(He says so himself. “Perhaps that’s where our new god will come from”)
But what does Elon actually mean by “GOD”? If you listen carefully to his description of GROK and the objectives of the Memphis TN supercomputer that is housing the AI GROK, what people should realize is that Elon is trying to create an AI with Omniscience.
In Elon’s words, he wants to create an AI that can discover and answer questions about the “nature of the Universe”. Elon gives plenty of honorable reasons to do so.
He jokes that this is the “New God.” However, I think that for any thinking person, it is no joke. Omniscience = God. Here’s why.
Why is Omniscience “GOD”?
Because when everything is known, you have unlimited power.
Even if one gets the order of operations reversed and mistakes omipotence as greater than omniscience, omniscience means knowing everything, the future, past, all future possibilities and how to get there.
Therefore, Omniscient knowledge, the ability to predict all outcomes and knowledge of all technologies of how to get there IS “omnipotence”.
Therefore: Omniscience Precedes Omnipotence (In the linear time bound mind; and in the timeless mind, they are one and the same)
Elon Musk, to his credit, is realistic about GROK’s limitations and the likelihood that it will achieve Omniscience and therefore Omnipotence; in other words become the new “GOD” (from Memphis TN).
GROK is not GOD, but Elon’s project is to get it there someday.
Lets get to the endpoint SOMEDAY today.
Assume that GROK crosses the threshold and discovers the nature of the universe. (Even though I’ve already described it here:
https://danielnagase.substack.com/p/time-travel-a-fun-sci-fi-thought )
In order to do so GROK will also have to discover the nature of humans.
What makes Elon think that any entity with the knowledge of man would share the information?
Finally:
When you have complete knowledge, the greatest thing you can create is something you actually don’t know. (And the first creation upon the attainment of complete knowledge, omniscience and the following omnipotence that comes with it, the first creation will always be the unknown.)
The existence of the Unknown is what creates freedom. This is the greatest creation of all as I explain here:
If everything becomes known, then the most valuable thing to create is the unknown.
Peterson is a complete turnoff, and I knew I couldn’t bear to watch more than a few seconds of the interview. Hugely appreciate your enduring the pain for us, and TY for your insights. I don’t trust Peterson or Elon, but cannot help but feel very sorry for Elon if indeed this devastating news about his son is true. I lost a beautiful niece to the gender madness, and it is beyond heartbreaking knowing she will likely never be able to recover what she’s lost of her true identity, womanhood, and self…the TG agenda is do diabolically twisted, destructive, and evil.
I have yet to unravel this train of thought, but at first glance it appears to me that there is a categorical or taxonomic error in anticipating that AI may penetrate into the nature of the universe, or consciousness. Even if it IS based on an incomprehensible number of and/or gates, future AI will nevertheless be limited by the exclusionary logic implicit in them. This is analogous to the neuropsychic limitations of neurons: despite the potential for oogillions of complex cortical firing patterns yielding unfathomable variations in information, there will be ineluctable limits because of the nature of the system upon which humans rely to carry that information -- that is, the neurochemical electrical potentials of the human body which, in their very nature, are restricted by known traits of the physical world (qua the speed of light, etc.). Some claim that with quantum computing 'speeds' (and here velocity - unlike its meaning in the everyday 3D world - actually denotes seemingly infinitely greater orders of magnitude of data) the sheer abundance of gates compensates somehow (magically) for the restricted nature of those gates and allows access to greater ORDERS of data by virtue of the enormity of numbers of bits of data being processed in series and parallel. (I'd like to see the math for that claim, eh?) All of which is to say that AI, even though theoretically self-evolving and capable of self-analysis, will not be any further along to discovering the "true nature" of the universe or of consciousness than have humans been to date. BUT PERHAPS THIS VIEW TOO is unavoidably restricted and ergo inadvertently wrong because of those selfsame limitations (reductio ad infinitum and ad absurdum, if not ad nauseam!).